Though at first glance, watching what looks like a little boy anxiously putting his face into the crotch of a young woman may cause one to be uncomfortable or even offended, it does not necessarily mean that the film need be banned or even labeled as child pornography. I recognize that within the film, The Tin Drum, there are several scenes that metaphorically represent sexual simulations, and I do not doubt or deny that some scenes personally caught me off-guard and offended me at least a little. But I would like to apply the harm theory here, which then moves me to protect this film because it did not truly incite immediate violence against me. Though a viewer might be disturbed or angered when Maria, in bed with Oskar, licks and eats the fizzy candy mixed with Oskar’s saliva in it off of her hand, the viewer undoubtedly was not physically harmed. It is a different matter when one is offended and one is harmed by something, as proven in Cohen v. California. In Cohen, the language that was used in this case was not considered obscene or of fighting words, though some may take the word “fuck” to be offensive. However, this type of expression is protected by the Constitution for several reasons: 1) it is not possible to come up with a list of acceptable and non-acceptable words, 2) provocative language can communicate valuable ideas and emotions, and 3) when the state attempts to prohibit words, they are also suppressing thoughts and ideas. In the same way, if we prohibit certain images that, in one country, may be viewed as art, and in the US a select handful of people may be offended, it would be limiting another’s artistic expressions to not protect The Tin Drum.
The Tin Drum is an award-winning film that gained much admiration and respect from film-reviewers and fans, which had much artistic and historical value behind it. According to the Child Pornography Prevention Act of 1966 (CPPA), child pornography “is defined by law as the visual depiction of a person under the age of 18 engaged in a sexually explicit conduct… Notably, the legal definition of sexually explicit conduct does not require that an image depict a child engaging in sexual activity…”. In New York v. Ferber, “sexual conduct” is defined as “actual or simulated sexual intercourse, deviate sexual intercourse, sexual bestiality, masturbation, sadomasochistic abuse, or lewd exhibition of the genitals.” However, the possession of such materials is not to be considered a crime. If we were to apply Baker’s theory here, not only should the possession of such materials not be considered a crime, but the production of such materials should be protected as well, as I will soon address. There is no SLAPS exception within Ferber, though I would argue extending it so that literary, artistic and political value is recognized, which there clearly was in The Tin Drum. Along with these examples are philosophical views that help to reason my argument for protecting The Tin Drum.
First, Thomas Emerson’s view on freedom of expression makes it clear that expressions that do not turn into actions should have absolute protection. If we were to think along his views toward freedom, The Tin Drum could be classified as an expression. However, I recognize that Emerson may consider some of the scenes in the film as obscene. This would have to be a case carefully examined if basing premises on Emerson, but I do think that the majority of Emerson’s views would contribute to protecting most of the content in The Tin Drum, classifying it as a means of artistic expression.
Edwin Baker is a philosopher grounded in a view that every individual has their right to express their creativity, whether that may be shown through a painting, a comic book, or a film, and so on. Baker protects the right of individuals to make their own judgments and choices about creating and/or consuming sexually simulating materials. His liberty theory suggests that “free speech becomes primarily a listener’s right to hear, not a speaker’s right to speak” (page 441, Tedford & Herbeck). Baker’s liberty theory is supported by two key values, which are self-fulfillment and participation in change, both pointing towards freedom and equality for individuals. I agree with the way Baker believes in protecting self-expressive and creative material that “protects nonviolent, non-coercive practices” (page 442, Tedford & Herbeck). Basically, the First Amendment protects individuals to make their own choices about whether they make or watch sexual materials.
In a society where we have teens prosecuted for “sexting,” I would argue that the scenes of The Tin Drum are not classified as child pornography, but rather, a film that has artistic value, in which some may not be able to understand while others are able to appreciate the film for what it is. In The Tin Drum, the boy who played Oskar was not forced to play the role, which I believe makes it acceptable for him to be Oskar, despite his actual age. Though in the United States we might think it is outrageous to view such a film where two young children are engaging in sexual activities, in countries like Germany, their culture is different from ours, which makes it okay to produce such a film with that storyline. Again, I do not dismiss the fact that one could be offended by knowing that the true age of the actors, but it does not harm anyone by knowing the numbers. Instead, it is a matter of offense, which I have suggested earlier in my analysis.
In conclusion, child pornography, or the definition of it at least, should be carefully considered because it seems to suppress the ideas of expressions of artists and filmmakers. If we extended the definition and allowed it SLAPS value, perhaps First Amendment rights would be much more granted. With Baker’s theory in mind, The Tin Drum is a film that offers literary value, especially for those who live in Germany who may understand the symbolisms in the film more than viewers in the United States, especially those in Oklahoma City. Nevertheless, the film, though it may have a select number of scenes that may be considered “uncomfortable” to view for most American eyes, is a film that holds a wide array of values for many viewers, thus allowing it to be viewed and purchased today.
Monday, March 8, 2010
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Gina did a great job in supporting her beliefs. She believes that the movie Tin Drum should be protected because of so many reasons, and she stated all the reasons clearly, which make the post easy to understand. I do agree with Gina that each individual will have their own perspective on how they see the movie, and from my stand point I do agree with Gina’s statement that states “[The Tin Drum] did not truly incite immediate violence . . .” It is true that the movie shows scenes that dealing with sexual incitement, yet it is not harm me. There are couple scenes that offense me, but it is not a big deal. After class is over, I did not even remember it anymore.
ReplyDeleteGina uses Cohen v. California as one of the supporting points, and she did a nice job tying all points together, and Cohen v. California is a great supporting point. Furthermore, for her philosopher grounding, she uses Thomas I. Emerson and Edwin Baker. In Emerson’s view on freedom of expression, one’s protected as long their expressions do not turn into action; however, the film itself can lead someone to go do something. From the sexual incitement that involve in the movie can lead one takes action; however, it is should still be protected because it is personal and the action do not harm anyone. And I support Edwin Baker’s theory. Overall, I love the idea that Gina emphasizes that all decisions, whether one support or not support the movie, it depends on individuals, and their background, like, culture.
Gina does a good job of saying her opinions about the The Tin Drum film. Though she was partially offended by some scenes, she explains how the film doesn't constitute as child pornography because it has not harmed anyone. She also does a good job of using the case Cohen v. California to illustrate the limitations of people's artistic expressions such as, The Tin Drum.
ReplyDeleteGina uses Edwin Baker and Thomas Emerson for her philosophical groundings. Like Larkin, Gina does a good job on using Baker to support the liberty that each person possesses, in this case, the sexual images that are received or produced. She also uses Emerson to illustrate that as long as expression does not turn into action, it should be protected. I agree with this. In this day and age, we watch so many movies and listen to songs that somehow offend us but does not necessarily harm you. For instance, whenever we listen to rap songs where the rappers talk about “bitches” and “ho's”, it may come as offensive but personally, it does not harm me-- it's just displeasing to my ears. For the rapper, it would also be considered as an artistic expression because that's the rapper's profession, to convey messages in a certain manner.
In conclusion, I overall agree with Gina's argument that the definition of Child Pornography should be tweaked to make room for consideration in what is considered artistic expression through using the SLAPS value and the fusion of Baker's and Emerson's philosophical groundings.
Gina does a very good job of stating her argument and then continuing on to strengthen and support her claim. I like how she starts out by admitting that the film did have several scenes that offended her, but quickly pulled her argument together and stated that the film should not be viewed as porn because it has not harmed anyone person in any way. Gina does a very good job of using case law from Cohen v. California as well as the philosophical groundings of Thomas Emerson and Edwin Baker to support her argument. Gina uses her philosophical grounds of Emerson to state that since this movie was merely expression and not action, that according to the expression action theory it should be protected. I agree with this point, the film is simply an expression and in no way is constituting or instructing any actions. By using the case of Cohen v. California, Gina is giving some case precedent to her argument. She is making the argument here that all though some might be offended by the message of this film it is an expression of the artist and therefore shall be protected, similar to a man wearing a coat saying, “Fuck The Draft.” Gina does something in the end of her post that I think she should have expanded on some more. She begins to talk about SLAPS and says that this film offers literary value, especially to those in Germany. I agree with her here and feel that if she argued this as a main point earlier in her posting that it would have made for a stronger and more compelling argument. Overall I agree with Gina, the movie Tin Drum should not be considered porn and should be protected under the first amendment.
ReplyDeleteGina makes a great and very relatable argument that I not only found very easy to follow, but also appreciated all the different things she could apply it to, in order to back up her opinions. First of all she starts out by saying how she felt when she saw the film and was a little grossed out. Frankly, this is how I felt when I watched clips of the film and I wanted to write it off right then and there. That being said, hearing how Gina felt about the film added credibility to her argument in that she viewed it the same way I did and was searching for some sort of legal validation of why it's okay.
ReplyDeleteLike other arguments, using Edwin Baker's Liberty Theory is good, promoting the free expression of thoughts unless it has "shock value" which the film, to me, was shocking, but then she goes and applies it to Harm Theory and it kind of puts things in perspective a little. Sure, I was a little offended by the content seen in the film, but did it really harm me? Lots of things offend people on a daily basis, but most of them don't cause any harm, which is why they are not being argued in court!
Another important thing Gina brings up is Emerson's expression v. action theory, and it is important to differentiate between the two. Under New York v. Ferber, it prohibits "simulated sexual conduct" and other things under the three prong analysis, but obviously this doesn't meet any of those because it is mere expression.
Also, like Larkin, Gina brings up the fact that this is an award winning film that has many positive antiwar undertones, especially in Germany, and it has SLAPS due to this.
In the end, it seems like Gina and I can agree that the good outweighs the bad on this film and it cannot be considered Child pornography as we initially would have liked to call it, and she makes great arguments for all of these things using many examples.